Bakuki:Give us an intro on the concept of the band… what’s BTM all about…
why you choose that name and what do you expect
on this musical journey...
NN: from a pin of a Beatle book...was really instantaneous....
jack :WELL BTM IS MORE THAN A BAND, IS SOMETHING THAT WE CARRY SINCE OUR CHILDHOOD, A CONCEPT THAT EVOLVED 8 YEARS AGO AND IS STILL ON THE RUN SO WE THINK THAT IT DOESNT MATTER IF WE DONT LIVE IN THE SAME CITY. THE CONCEPT CAN'T BE TEAR APART.
Jack:AND WE CHANGED IT TO BLACK BECAUSE ITS COOLER.
B: You started playing musical instruments and then evolved to a more electronic setting…
B: Tell us a little bit about your musical influences, when you started playing...
Jack: first musical INSTRUMENTS and THEN SOFTWARE AND SYNTHS.
NN: We started playing just for fun....the two of us...jamming in a room playing Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath.
Jack: WELL WE STARTED Listening A LOT OF PUNK MUSIC AT FIRST
AND HARDCORE STUFF LIKE EVERY KID OF OUR Generation.
NN: yeah, that’s right.
Jack:THOUGH, MY FIRST RECORD WAS MECHANICAL ANIMALS
IN CASSETE…
B:Great..
Jack: MY SISTER BOUGHT IT FOR ME WHEN I WAS 10.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE RECS EVER!
AND a Queen cassette, I'M NOT SURE…
B: So you experienced the transition from tape to digital..
Jack:
IN A WAY
NN:
And we use to play mechanical animals on the tape recorder.
Jack:I USED TO TAPE MYSELF, ALOT WHEN I WAS A KID
ONCE I TAPED MYSELF OVER A PLASTILINA MOSH CASSETTE
NN: and we used to listen
some classic stuff.
I remember. It was direct influence from our parents.
B: I know from personal experience that NN has a unique collection on vinyl with rock n roll classics such as Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple.
Jack:OH YEAH, A LOVELY ONE,VERY GROOVY RECORDS
B: A really vintage collection…
NN: we were interested in the psicodelic culture for a while…
B: Was that your moms.. NN?
NN: It was from my moms friend, a camba who used to smack himself listening the records...then he gave them to me..
Those records had their path…
NN: It was like
a real religious act..." here son, my precious vinyl collection...take care of it"....
Jack: I THINK THAT BASICALLY WE WENT FROM WHITE PEOPLE MUSIC TO BLACK PEOPLE MUSIC TO WHITE AGAIN TO GERMANY TRANSVESTID ELECTRO TO BLACK AGAIN SO THERES ALWAYS A BLACK DUDE, NOW there’s BARACK OBAMA...LIKE THE UNCLE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE…JAJA
NN: We started playing after Jack came back from U.S. …I got a bass and he bought his guitar so we said one day on web camera… let me see your Fender…
And we said...we should play some Beatles music.
Jack:IN those TIMES I Gained a LOT OF WEIGHT YOU KNOW I WENT INTO SOME KIND OF ELVIS MOOD… GOT FAT, growed THE SIDEBURNS, LOST THE DIGNITY …
NN: that was the early stage of BTM. jaja and I was a metal head.
I was listening a lot of Iron Maiden, nine inch nails and Megadeth.
B: Do you think Elvis was the real deal? Who’s your favourite artist from that generation?
Jack: I THINK THAT A MAN THAT CAN BE REALLY FAT AND STILL BE THE KING OF ROCK N ROLL MUST BE SOMETHING…
B: It’s been said that he was the first human to watch 3 TVs at the same time…
Jack: HAHAHA WE GOT AN OLD SONG CALLED ELVIS BLACK SUIT
NN: jaja
Jack: DEFINITLY THE VELVET UNDERGROUND
NN:Yes, is so dark
B: Why do you think this band is still is a strong influence?
NN:because is the darkest band of that time. They had aesthetics and a
concept thing in their own way…
B: Which year did you make the transition from real instruments to software?. Was it a natural progression or you just were fed up with your drum player?
NN: 2006
Jack: WELL I USED TO PLAY IN A JAMIROQUAI WANNA-BE BAND.
A REALLY GOOD ONE
THE GUY THAT COMPOSED THE MUSIC
USED Software
TO RECORD ALL HIS SONGS
AND ONE day
HE Showed me how he make it
And
THEN HE GAVE ME THE SOFTWARE
AND I REALLY LIKED it
CAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO QUIT THE BAND
AND I NEED SOMETHING TO DO…
NN: Yes...that time we used to play other things....
But you were playing with them
o m g
we studied scientist politics in that time too
jajaja
Jack: YEP I DONT KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING
JAHHAHAHA
NN:
me too
Jack:
BUT IT WAS ALSO KINDA COOL
WE MET A LOT OF FUNNY PEOPLE
ALTOUGH I REGRET THAT I'VE MET SOME OF THEM NOW
B:Do You think the environment You lived in
Made a difference On Your way of playing?
DO YOU have different friends now?
NN:
Not really
But we grew up together.
Jack:
I DONT HAVE FRIENDS
HAHAHA
NN:
jajaja
its true
B:Tell us about Your sound. You use a lot of SYnTHS..
NN: We have a very characteristic sound since we started...
Jack:
VERY VINTAGE SOUNDS
NN: we have our own way to compose
and make our sounds.
Jack: I DONT LIKE THaT KIND OF PSYTRANCE
WITH LOTs OF REVERB.
NN:
we are very interested on analog sounds
Jack: VERY 80'S THATS THE TRUE
WE "JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH"
NN:
jajaja
"We just can’t get enough"
Jack: YOU KNOW A GOOD SYNTH ITS LIKE LOVE
B: 80s is a decade that compromised your sound...
Jack:
YOU CAN'T NEVER SAY NO TO it.
B: Why is that?
BOTH of You were born in the 90s...
Jack:
YEP BUT THE 80'S ARE SO FUNNY
THE CLOTHES, THE HAIRS
AND A GOOD 80'S SONG
Always MAKE YOU SHAKE YOUR BODY.
NN:
yes we born late in 80s
we love 80s and 70 funk
and the uncool aesthetics of that time.
Jack:
ALSO I ALWAYS HEARD THAT MUSIC WHEN I WAS A CHiLD MY SISTERS ARE VERY 80'S...
NN: And that with some psicodelic influence that came from our own inner-search.
B: Which Pop Icon would you choose if asked to work with? Madonna or Michael Jackson.?
Jack: MMM MADONNA
NN: Maradonna
JacK:SHES HAS A NOSE
NN:MARADONA
Jack:HAHAHAHA
NN:but Michael was black
Jack: MMM BLACK MICHAEL JACKSON I MUST SAY
B: Michael Jackson worked with QUINCY JONES on the Thriller album… He´s certainly one of the best producers of all time.
NN: I guess
B: Who s the best producer from old school to new...
NN: George Martin? Phil Spector?
Quincy Jones could be too.
Jack: GEORGE MARTIN PROVED TO BE AN AWSOME DJ TOO
IN THE LATEST BEATLES ALBUM.
NN: I think now the producers are like treasure hunters...
B: Why is that?
NN: because they get more profit selling than producing.
like the new teenage bands....its all about the
money and the hype. When you listen to these records they seem like
An extra large big Mac.
Jack: that’s TRUE, THAT´s
WHY THE INDIE SCENE IS MOVING A LOT NOW...
B: What about movies or books?
a great producer is also a great story teller..
Jack: GOOD POINT, I DON´T LIKE MOVIES TOO MUCH, IT’S NOT MY STYLE, BUT OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD ONES.
NN:i like movies...
but its not the same....
Jack: AND ALSO I THINK THAT BOOKS ARE dangerous
NN: they are mind manipulating..
B:in a previous conversation
You exposed books as the TV of the dark ages...
Jack: OHH YEAH, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS…
B: Tell us your insight on that matter.
Jack: WELL, IN ANCIENT TIMES THEY DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO, SO THEIR ENTERTAINMENT WAS READING BOOKS AND WRITING THEM
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WROTE VERY DANGEOURS THINGS, AND PEOPLE BELIEVED THEM SO IF YOU READ A LOT OF BOOKS,ONE AFTER ANOTHER YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PROCESS ALL THAT INFO AND YOUR BRAIN WILL BREAKOUT.
NN:
I think books are fun....just be careful because like all the information we reserve
it could be dangerous....and could be our saviour too.
Jack: SO GO TO YOUR LIBRARIES, KIDS.
B: Why do you think the Beatles went to India to meet with all this gurus.. Zeppelin members also were affiliated to occult masters such as Crowley. Are you looking for your own mystic experience?
NN: I don’t believe in mystic experiences....only in good drugs.
Jack: WELL I THINK THAT MYSTIC THINGS MUST EXIST BUT TO BE HONEST I NEVER HAD A REALLY STRONG Experience HAHAHA
NN:
and good spots to consume
yeah some crazy mushrooms
is what You need..
like the ones I’m going to eat after this interview.
I think mystic is a really cool story....but everybody feels the mystic experience in a way. It is not necessary go to India or anywhere..
B: We were discusing on how psicodelics affect the artist music…
Jack: well definitely they roll a part on our music.
They’re the Travolta to our Samuel L. Jackson,
The Chaney to our Bush.
That’s amazing nowadays I can no longer think when I do that kind of stuff
I just enter into the twilight zone
and I’m there watching everything melt.
I don’t know why lots of People Are Scared of this kind of stuff specially the ones that have never taken Them,Those are the ones that give you advice about things that they don’t even know.
ha-ha
B:
do You feel different
from people doing music at your current locations?
what makes the difference on Your approach?
Jack:
I think
the majority of producers just make songs
and don’t have any direction of where they want to go
n. dice:
its different ways of work....both funny
Jack:
They’re just happy with their chicks
if you take a look of any of the best electronic records of 2008 in any genre all of them have an artistic direction and a aesthetic to follow- it's not like they just got the software and started pressing buttons
NN:
i think is funniest when we can talk and play at the same time....when we play live sessions via internet is weirder
because I cant believe it is really
Working...
so. is pretty cool play and work on different ways under the same concept of sound
Jack:
exactly
we think before doing
not backwards
never backwards
its funny when you do it without thinking
but that is a concept that we like to introduce in our live performances
but in the studio its another deal
cause a performance is a representation of live, when you don’t have the control 100%, the chance play a major part in our live work
im very influenced by john cage and his writings about chance and other related matters
NN:
Yes...we used to work on different ways, studio is always different because you have all the equipment ready to go
but i think it is great because u try new things.
JacK:
Yep new sounds, new life.
B:
certainly.. So when You work via internet You do follow some ...strucTUCTURE..
How you blend it all together?
NN: I think is kind of exit door of the life in the big cities
We Used to chat
Jack:
well mr.n is always in charge of the drum programming
N:
so we decided to play via internet live sessions
Jack:
and I’m always in charge of the synths
NN:
we used to listen the same music
and we know each other
so...its not hard to blend our music
Jack:
we instantly recognize what the other is trying to do, so we adjust everything to reach that goal
and i think you saw
that in our private live session
the infamous BTM Saturday night session.
NN:
I really know what he is doing....so I simply follow the lead or he follows the tempo of the beat
...in studio we have more instruments and any
how the sound its better and we can play two or three different synths.
B: Yes i toOk notice that BOth BTM members when playing live sessions together have a special quemistry
NN:
and its the 4 years of practice
JacK:
and 12 years or so of friendship
NN:
and all that under btm concept.....its all part of the cake
B: I see…
both of You guys travel on a regular basis.. How is BIG CITY LIFE affecting the way BTM in 2009?
NN: we saw that we can make it happen in other cities
JacK:
hahaha
big cities really take me by surprise
cause i love the movement and the speed of everything
but everyone is as lonely as they don’t want to be
and they hate the same things as everyone else
and they misbehave the same way
its not as hard as they make you believe
except for the $$$
NN:
i think big cities change your way of seeing, smelling, and listening… everything…u are like an ant in places like NYC or Mexico DF…
Jack:
the world is upside down nowadays, lonely people live in small towns, and the ones that don’t want to be lonely hate their big city, big cities are made specially for people who like being alone- there are too many things to do in the city
so you can not waste your time it in another person
NN:
yes, that´s true
B: Is love life affecting your music?
NN: Not at all.
B:do you have something to quote about that matter.
NN:We make music under our concept so ...jajaja, I don’t know how to say this...
Emano* is a great example
Jack:
not me, i could say that music is a PLEASURE same as love
yeah like Emano* and other songs that we wrote in a very dark moment of our lives
NN:
jajaja
Jack:
but they don’t run the whole thing
for instance at this point of my life im not ready to make a song for anyone
cause I don’t feel honest doing that
NN:
yes...
so if you catch me doing it
you know im lying
is the same with art i guess
Jack:
so you can tell my girlfriend (which i don’t have)
hahaha
NN:
jajaja
B:
ading to that, Would You ever think of going solo
projects or Joining other groups
B:
at the same time performing
NN:
we both make our own music....
B:
in other scenes?
Jack:
I do have another project is an avant garde music project with some guys from the OEIN
NN:
but im studying design and I don’t have much extra time, design, my own music...i think i have no time for other project.
Jack:
but that’s another thing so it doesn't bother BTM at all.
yeah that the diference
cause I do study music, so i must have other projects running all the time but if i would have been studying another thing I guess i would the same as mr NN.
NN:
jaja
NN:
I think BTM is the "grand project".
because it is timeless, It has music in it so it doesn´t need the time to exist.
Jack:
and thats when we made it into a concept.
NN: the concept made itself.
Jack: so BTM don’t have to die some day.
B:What do You feel about Bolivian scene?
NN:
hu!!!!!!!
B:please don’t be rough...
since we are bolivians
NN:
what scene?
Jack:
"BOLIVIAN SCENE IS LIKE THE CLASSIC old hore THAT’S working still with the same hustler AND NOBODY KNOWS HOW SHE STILL HAS CLIENTS TO FUCK."
NN: Amen
"TO PROTECT AND ENTERTAIN' IN PARTY WE TRUST, THE MOTHER' DJ'S AIN'T FUCKIN' WITH US"
